Comments on: the multitude and the rhizome: a sermon on John 6:1-21, Jesus feeds the 5,000 http://www.rustyparts.com/wp/2006/08/01/the-multitude-and-the-rhizome-a-sermon-on-john-61-21-jesus-feeds-the-5000/ : Blogging Linear Interstellar Points : Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:34:38 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: isaac http://www.rustyparts.com/wp/2006/08/01/the-multitude-and-the-rhizome-a-sermon-on-john-61-21-jesus-feeds-the-5000/comment-page-1/#comment-15060 isaac Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:22:23 +0000 http://www.rustyparts.com/wp/2006/08/01/the-multitude-and-the-rhizome-a-sermon-on-john-61-21-jesus-feeds-the-5000/#comment-15060 Mickey, thanks for the kind comment. Mickey, thanks for the kind comment.

]]> By: Mickey http://www.rustyparts.com/wp/2006/08/01/the-multitude-and-the-rhizome-a-sermon-on-john-61-21-jesus-feeds-the-5000/comment-page-1/#comment-15054 Mickey Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:00:03 +0000 http://www.rustyparts.com/wp/2006/08/01/the-multitude-and-the-rhizome-a-sermon-on-john-61-21-jesus-feeds-the-5000/#comment-15054 Simply the best work on this text that I have ever seen. Quite in the manner of your rhizome, this reading populates all of John with resoance Simply the best work on this text that I have ever seen. Quite in the manner of your rhizome, this reading populates all of John with resoance

]]> By: isaac http://www.rustyparts.com/wp/2006/08/01/the-multitude-and-the-rhizome-a-sermon-on-john-61-21-jesus-feeds-the-5000/comment-page-1/#comment-14478 isaac Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:19:34 +0000 http://www.rustyparts.com/wp/2006/08/01/the-multitude-and-the-rhizome-a-sermon-on-john-61-21-jesus-feeds-the-5000/#comment-14478 http://churchandpomo.typepad.com/conversation/2008/07/since-i-was-alr.html http://churchandpomo.typepad.com/conversation/2008/07/since-i-was-alr.html

]]> By: isaac http://www.rustyparts.com/wp/2006/08/01/the-multitude-and-the-rhizome-a-sermon-on-john-61-21-jesus-feeds-the-5000/comment-page-1/#comment-13422 isaac Tue, 01 May 2007 12:50:49 +0000 http://www.rustyparts.com/wp/2006/08/01/the-multitude-and-the-rhizome-a-sermon-on-john-61-21-jesus-feeds-the-5000/#comment-13422 Morgan, I'm sorry for your "sadness." Also, thank for the correction: rhizomes aren't plants. We have an Orchid enthusiast in our congregation and he was quick to make clear that rhizomes weren't plants; they have more to do with the root system. I should have corrected that part in my sermon. But I think the analogy still works in the sermon. Lastly, thanks for checking out the blog. Morgan, I’m sorry for your “sadness.”

Also, thank for the correction: rhizomes aren’t plants. We have an Orchid enthusiast in our congregation and he was quick to make clear that rhizomes weren’t plants; they have more to do with the root system. I should have corrected that part in my sermon. But I think the analogy still works in the sermon.

Lastly, thanks for checking out the blog.

]]> By: morgan http://www.rustyparts.com/wp/2006/08/01/the-multitude-and-the-rhizome-a-sermon-on-john-61-21-jesus-feeds-the-5000/comment-page-1/#comment-13421 morgan Tue, 01 May 2007 05:35:21 +0000 http://www.rustyparts.com/wp/2006/08/01/the-multitude-and-the-rhizome-a-sermon-on-john-61-21-jesus-feeds-the-5000/#comment-13421 Oh yeah, one more thing: Rhizomes are not plants. They are not even a type of plant. They are a characteristic in sympodial plant species. (Sympodials are not an actual species, by the way) Oh yeah, one more thing: Rhizomes are not plants. They are not even a type of plant. They are a characteristic in sympodial plant species. (Sympodials are not an actual species, by the way)

]]> By: morgan http://www.rustyparts.com/wp/2006/08/01/the-multitude-and-the-rhizome-a-sermon-on-john-61-21-jesus-feeds-the-5000/comment-page-1/#comment-13420 morgan Tue, 01 May 2007 05:30:03 +0000 http://www.rustyparts.com/wp/2006/08/01/the-multitude-and-the-rhizome-a-sermon-on-john-61-21-jesus-feeds-the-5000/#comment-13420 I am an avid orchid grower and ran across this while doing some research. I must say that I am filled with a terrible sadness to see something so beautiful and scientifical turned into "jibberish" as someone else described it (well put, by the way). Do you know want to know something else about rhizomes? They can, and should be seperated when the plant becomes too large. Hm...why don't you think on that in terms of a social metaphor? I am an avid orchid grower and ran across this while doing some research. I must say that I am filled with a terrible sadness to see something so beautiful and scientifical turned into “jibberish” as someone else described it (well put, by the way). Do you know want to know something else about rhizomes? They can, and should be seperated when the plant becomes too large. Hm…why don’t you think on that in terms of a social metaphor?

]]> By: Scott http://www.rustyparts.com/wp/2006/08/01/the-multitude-and-the-rhizome-a-sermon-on-john-61-21-jesus-feeds-the-5000/comment-page-1/#comment-13396 Scott Sun, 22 Apr 2007 03:43:16 +0000 http://www.rustyparts.com/wp/2006/08/01/the-multitude-and-the-rhizome-a-sermon-on-john-61-21-jesus-feeds-the-5000/#comment-13396 Isaac, Wonderful sermon. Very helpful in the study I am doing and the way you through Bible Study have tied it all together. You have been a great help and a blessing. God bless you brother Isaac,

Wonderful sermon. Very helpful in the study I am doing and the way you through Bible Study have tied it all together. You have been a great help and a blessing.
God bless you brother

]]> By: isaac http://www.rustyparts.com/wp/2006/08/01/the-multitude-and-the-rhizome-a-sermon-on-john-61-21-jesus-feeds-the-5000/comment-page-1/#comment-6523 isaac Tue, 03 Oct 2006 11:00:59 +0000 http://www.rustyparts.com/wp/2006/08/01/the-multitude-and-the-rhizome-a-sermon-on-john-61-21-jesus-feeds-the-5000/#comment-6523 Daniel, thanks for visiting the site. Please come again. I'm sorry if the sermon came across as a bit like "jibbberish." Maybe it's a sermon when you need to be there to get it. Of all my sermons, this one has received the most engagement. After someone preaches at our church, the congregation has a chance to respond and engage the proclaimed Word. Lots of people had lots to say. They got and thought through it. Having living rhizomes on display probably helped out. People had something to look at that preached my message for me. Maybe that means you need to come visit us in Chapel Hill... Daniel, thanks for visiting the site. Please come again. I’m sorry if the sermon came across as a bit like “jibbberish.” Maybe it’s a sermon when you need to be there to get it. Of all my sermons, this one has received the most engagement. After someone preaches at our church, the congregation has a chance to respond and engage the proclaimed Word. Lots of people had lots to say. They got and thought through it. Having living rhizomes on display probably helped out. People had something to look at that preached my message for me. Maybe that means you need to come visit us in Chapel Hill…

]]> By: Daniel http://www.rustyparts.com/wp/2006/08/01/the-multitude-and-the-rhizome-a-sermon-on-john-61-21-jesus-feeds-the-5000/comment-page-1/#comment-6518 Daniel Tue, 03 Oct 2006 02:42:35 +0000 http://www.rustyparts.com/wp/2006/08/01/the-multitude-and-the-rhizome-a-sermon-on-john-61-21-jesus-feeds-the-5000/#comment-6518 Wow. I have studied philosophy and religion now for years, and if anyone could truly understand this jibberish I would be truly impressed. Try a little formal logic--that might make the sermon a bit better. At least if I were sitting in the pew I could then follow it. Wow. I have studied philosophy and religion now for years, and if anyone could truly understand this jibberish I would be truly impressed.

Try a little formal logic—that might make the sermon a bit better. At least if I were sitting in the pew I could then follow it.

]]> By: andrew http://www.rustyparts.com/wp/2006/08/01/the-multitude-and-the-rhizome-a-sermon-on-john-61-21-jesus-feeds-the-5000/comment-page-1/#comment-4956 andrew Sat, 05 Aug 2006 11:57:25 +0000 http://www.rustyparts.com/wp/2006/08/01/the-multitude-and-the-rhizome-a-sermon-on-john-61-21-jesus-feeds-the-5000/#comment-4956 Isaac, great sermon. It's about time for folks at church to see what might be useful from Deleuze and Guattari (rather than the cheap shots from Dan Bell and others). I thought you did a great job with the rhizome. But I'm still curious what you think about the multitude. As I read between the lines I could see an ongoing engagement with Hobbes and Spinoza (i.e., multitude as pre-political mass waiting for the union through a soveriegn). But I couldn't tell what you think about what Tony Negri (and Hardt) do with 'the multitude.' Do you think they offer a helpful way for christians to think about 'the political'? If you and your readers want to read a helpful essay by Tony Negri on 'the multitude', check this out: "the multitude":http://www.nadir.org/nadir/initiativ/agp/space/multitude.htm Peace, Andrew Isaac, great sermon. It’s about time for folks at church to see what might be useful from Deleuze and Guattari (rather than the cheap shots from Dan Bell and others). I thought you did a great job with the rhizome. But I’m still curious what you think about the multitude. As I read between the lines I could see an ongoing engagement with Hobbes and Spinoza (i.e., multitude as pre-political mass waiting for the union through a soveriegn). But I couldn’t tell what you think about what Tony Negri (and Hardt) do with ‘the multitude.’ Do you think they offer a helpful way for christians to think about ‘the political’?

If you and your readers want to read a helpful essay by Tony Negri on ‘the multitude’, check this out: the multitude

Peace,
Andrew

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